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lucan hammercrest · May 25, 2007, 05:46 AM // 05:46

And if you really want to fix the game Set it up that both PVE and PVP players get a chance to get the same skins... If you really wanted to get rid of the bots u would have already but i didn't see anyone from Anet checking out Ascalon international dist nor complaining about gold being sold there from websites its almost like its Anet is selling the gold to make more cash.... Listen u gave the PVP peeps Mursaat Hammers and Bows give us the Crystalline Sword drops in PVE.... Some people dont like pvp and the same can be said for pve but one group should not benefit more then the next... You say anet wants to be fair like I stated before look at the market and tell me whats fair

ClanYumemiru · May 25, 2007, 10:46 AM // 10:46

Ergo, you want to remove the only way by which PvE'ers can distinguish themselves.

Ascended armor is a PvE perk for which you have to go to CONSIDERABLE lengths to get - at considerable expense.

You might do well to remember you can take a PvE char - with their armor - into PvP ...

freekedoutfish · May 25, 2007, 12:12 PM // 12:12

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Originally Posted by lucan hammercrest

And if you really want to fix the game Set it up that both PVE and PVP players get a chance to get the same skins... If you really wanted to get rid of the bots u would have already but i didn't see anyone from Anet checking out Ascalon international dist nor complaining about gold being sold there from websites its almost like its Anet is selling the gold to make more cash.... Listen u gave the PVP peeps Mursaat Hammers and Bows give us the Crystalline Sword drops in PVE.... Some people dont like pvp and the same can be said for pve but one group should not benefit more then the next... You say anet wants to be fair like I stated before look at the market and tell me whats fair

Lucon I dont even understand what your talking about. You make very little sense and you need to learn how to use punctuation! I nearly lost breath trying to read that.

I dont see the issue about whether or not PvE and PvP dont have the same skins, or have access to different weapons. They are completely different gaming types.

Im not arsed whether the PvP players have rare skinned weapons. They didnt earn them, they just built them!

Who gives a toss!

But are you honestly suggestion Anet hasnt done a single thing to prevent Bots?

Do you know how many accounts they block every day, and how much data they read through all the time to see if anything dodgey stands out?

The people at Anet play this game like the rest of us, they hate Botters just as much. Their isnt alot you can do to remove people using bots. Its not as simple as just turning a switch and making them impossible.

And quite honestly, why are you so angree about botting? Yes it a bad thing and it shouldnt happen, but unless a bot has come up and slapped you in the face, then why are you being so aggressive towards Anet?

Their automated programmes, they cant do you any harm. Let Anet deal with them as best they can.

Thomas.knbk · May 25, 2007, 03:25 PM // 15:25

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Originally Posted by ClanYumemiru

Ergo, you want to remove the only way by which PvE'ers can distinguish themselves.

No, he wants to not force PvPers who want l33t sk1nz to play PvE, which they might not like.

Tarun · May 25, 2007, 03:51 PM // 15:51

I agree. It's crap that the Stygian Reaver, Runic Blade, and many other nice items that are PvE based drop from HoH chests.

This needs fixing.

/signed

lucan hammercrest · May 25, 2007, 05:28 PM // 17:28

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Lucon I dont even understand what your talking about. You make very little sense and you need to learn how to use punctuation! I nearly lost breath trying to read that.

Now if you are whining about punctuation maybe you should learn how to read and spell before you make a comment like that. secondly if you didn't see the point I was making and turned it into grammer class 101 I got a great advice for you.
1: Get out of your parents basement and hit a bar.
2: find a girl or if that isn't in your liking a guy either way bring a fifty with you cuz if you are complaining to them about grammer you will need a taxi and a partner of your choice at the nearest street corner otherwise your hand and wrist is going to be sore.

Listen it's well known that anet kisses the pvp players butts,,, examples of this is any major nerf to skills like the rit, ele, paragon have been becouse of complaints from pvpers this is a fact.To fix this make it seperate the skill mods for for both areas Secondly the hoh drops hmmm should be the same as any chest in a high end area. No one group should should get more nor should they get less then the other. I mean the market has pretty much crashed on ectos and high end items except items from hoh. MY point is if you are going to ruin one market you might as well ruin them all..
I don't know about you but has anyone from Anet ever been in Ascalon international dist? if so good job stopping the selling of gold from bots spaming different websites...wait that was joke...

ClanYumemiru · May 25, 2007, 06:13 PM // 18:13

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Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk

No, he wants to not force PvPers who want l33t sk1nz to play PvE, which they might not like.

You're right.

I think PvP'ers have it far too easy for all they get - all they do is fight some semi-intelligent level 20 8-man mobs of which they know the composition pretty much beforehand.

We PvE'ers have to put up with opponents reaching all the way up to level 31, which are capable of wiping any unprepared/uncoorodinated group in mere seconds, as well as LARGE mobs, often way past our own level (24 to 28) capable of cutting us down faster than any feeble PvP team.

Most of us got our Ascended/Prestige Armor by working blood, sweat and tears for it - barring the morons who take runs.
We have to invest serious chunks of money and materials into obtaining it,
which in itself isn't easy to come by (it would be interesting to hear some updated stats on player wealth)

And they want it for free ?

You'll have to pry it out of my cold, dead hands.

Malangyar · May 25, 2007, 08:47 PM // 20:47

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Originally Posted by ClanYumemiru

You're right.

I think PvP'ers have it far too easy for all they get - all they do is fight some semi-intelligent level 20 8-man mobs of which they know the composition pretty much beforehand.

We PvE'ers have to put up with opponents reaching all the way up to level 31, which are capable of wiping any unprepared/uncoorodinated group in mere seconds, as well as LARGE mobs, often way past our own level (24 to 28) capable of cutting us down faster than any feeble PvP team.

Most of us got our Ascended/Prestige Armor by working blood, sweat and tears for it - barring the morons who take runs.
We have to invest serious chunks of money and materials into obtaining it,
which in itself isn't easy to come by (it would be interesting to hear some updated stats on player wealth)

And they want it for free ?

You'll have to pry it out of my cold, dead hands.

Listen, mate, PvE characters already have a way of distinguishing themselves. They can move around in practically the whole game, do quests, get more titles, fight monsters and participate in a storyline. Also, every time they get something, they *automatically* unlock it in PvP. So, in a way, double bonus. BUT don't get me wrong here. I have no problem with that, it's great and fine and all.

But why do you want to stop people who enjoy playing PvP from getting new armour? They can't use it in the HUGE PvE world anyway. I'm NOT saying they should get it for free. I'm saying it should be unlockable, taking AS MUCH TIME as it takes for PvE players to get the armour in PvE.

That would only be fair.

ClanYumemiru · May 25, 2007, 08:53 PM // 20:53

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Originally Posted by Malangyar

Listen, mate, PvE characters already have a way of distinguishing themselves. They can move around in practically the whole game, do quests, get more titles, fight monsters and participate in a storyline. Also, every time they get something, they *automatically* unlock it in PvP. So, in a way, double bonus. BUT don't get me wrong here. I have no problem with that, it's great and fine and all.

But why do you want to stop people who enjoy playing PvP from getting new armour? They can't use it in the HUGE PvE world anyway. I'm NOT saying they should get it for free. I'm saying it should be unlockable, taking AS MUCH TIME as it takes for PvE players to get the armour in PvE.

That would only be fair.

Ergo -

because you CHOOSE to pay for everything with inifinitely renewable points you can score by smacking a few level 20 opponents around for a few days, you feel you deserve our rewards which we play our butts off for ?

I don't think so.

Remember, WE PvE'ers suffer everytime a new flavor-of-the-month build in PvP screws our skills because a bunch of whiney kids can't deal with a new strategy.

You want fair ?

PvE is open to you. Come and get it - if you have the guts to play for it, you'll get the rewards for it.

Undivine · May 25, 2007, 10:58 PM // 22:58

I think this topic is waining quite a bit now. The subject matter obviously ignites some passion in people, so I'll just close this now before it gets out of hand. People are already yelling at eachother (and misinterpreting each other).

Closed.